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{November 26, 2005}   Self inflicted?

The whole issue of the NHS treating peoples so called self inflicted illnesses has been a recurring theme this last week or so. As a nurse, I have always considered it part of the job to try not to discriminate against people because they are fat, smoke, drink, have unsafe sex etc. Just because I don’t think I would ever consider abortion for myself, doesn’t mean I haven’t been present and assisted people having abortions (I know that abortion is contentious and pregnancy isn’t an illness). Just because I don’t smoke, doesn’t mean I haven’t bandaged the amputated legs of people who lost their legs through smoking, or who have had heart attacks due to smoking and obesity.

If we stopped caring for people who had contributed to their disease in some way, perhaps hospitals would become a more pleasant place, as they would pretty much be empty. People are becoming increasingly self righteous on these matters but I would challenge the idea that discriminating against people on the basis that they are too fat for a hip replacement or that because they have been smokers in the past and might relapse they shouldn’t be given the chance of heart surgery. Actually it is not as simple as that, it pretty much never is. People go on about ‘lifestyle choices’ but are these actually choices? Who chooses to kill themselves though alcohol abuse, cigarette smoking, drug abuse, unsafe sex? Ok so some people do lead pretty reckless lives, but who are we as healthcare providers and members of the public to judge the behaviour of others? It seems to me that judging is something we have become pretty good at, and often we do it without giving a thought to our own lives.

I am not so naive as to think that some rationing does not need to take place, but it is time for people to recognise that each case should be taken on it’s merit rather than making such blanket statements such as the one made in Suffolk this week (link above).




Jeff says:

Julie, since you’re a healthcare professional,I have a quick question about BMI now that the topic has come up.
First of all, I agree with you completely. A problem is a problem, whether “self inflicted” or not. But my question is this…
They state they’ll deny operations for people with a BMI over 30. What happens in the case of people with large muscle mass? I happen to be one of these people (not to brag). My body fat percentage is in the mid-teens (healthy according to my doctor) but my BMI is in the mid to upper 20s. Aside from the type 2 diabetes which is under control, I’m a fit specimen. Would someone like Ronnie Coleman (Mr. Olympia… a world class bodybuilder) be denied because he’s around 6 feet tall and 270 lbs. (with a body fat percentage in the single digits)?
Sorry that was so long.



Julie says:

Good question and one which hasn’t been addressed in the simplicity of the BBC and other articles which can be found in the written and digital press. I read about a week ago that the concept of the BMI was being abandoned, in favour of waist measurement as a useful risk factor. I am also not quite sure how workable this kind of thing really is. I’d love it if someone were to take one of the Suffolk trusts to court over this, as if BMI is used someone as you describe is bound to get turned away.



If you think the health care attitudes are bad there, try it over in the US. It is almost getting to the point where unless you can afford to get sick they would rather not wait on you at all. Being poor is considered a self-inflicted illness in some circles.

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Hahaha…the discussion with regards to BMI rages on. The debate as to whther this is an accurate measure is currently being superceeded by bioimpedence testing, although this technique also has it’s flaws. You can find out more by simply googling about it.

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